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		<title>Comment on Silence is Golden by Laura</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/07/silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 04:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pregnancy before birth - long, uncomfortable, exciting, a bit scary, too. Looking forward to hearing from you whenever the time is right!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Jesus Manifesto by Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola by Daniel Rose</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/06/review-jesus-manifesto-by-leonard-sweet-and-frank-viola/comment-page-1/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that the online Manifesto was better than the book.  I couldn&#039;t get real excited bout either.  I was hoping it would be more in the vein of The Cross of Christ by Stott.  But, sadly it was a bit thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that the online Manifesto was better than the book.  I couldn&#39;t get real excited bout either.  I was hoping it would be more in the vein of The Cross of Christ by Stott.  But, sadly it was a bit thin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Jesus Manifesto by Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola by Trevor</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/06/review-jesus-manifesto-by-leonard-sweet-and-frank-viola/comment-page-1/#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, agreed. May be a bit harsh, but that was the image that kept creeping in my head while I was reading! It just seemed like Sweet was trying valiantly to show his skills as a pseudo French philosopher.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought their &quot;Magna Carta&quot; that was distributed online in June 2009 was stronger than this book which came in its aftermath. Granted, they may have started with only that online document in mind and then been approached by Thomas Nelson Publishers with the book concept...but I just couldn&#039;t get excited about the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, agreed. May be a bit harsh, but that was the image that kept creeping in my head while I was reading! It just seemed like Sweet was trying valiantly to show his skills as a pseudo French philosopher.</p>
<p>I thought their &#8220;Magna Carta&#8221; that was distributed online in June 2009 was stronger than this book which came in its aftermath. Granted, they may have started with only that online document in mind and then been approached by Thomas Nelson Publishers with the book concept&#8230;but I just couldn&#39;t get excited about the book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Jesus Manifesto by Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola by Daniel Rose</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/06/review-jesus-manifesto-by-leonard-sweet-and-frank-viola/comment-page-1/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if I would say that.  I thought they did a decent portraying Jesus.  I think the book is really limited and could have been much better.  However, I am not sure that I agree that they are desirous of people chanting to a disembodied Jesus.  That might be a bit harsh. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think they were looking to identify the crucified and resurrected Jesus. But, maybe I missed something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know if I would say that.  I thought they did a decent portraying Jesus.  I think the book is really limited and could have been much better.  However, I am not sure that I agree that they are desirous of people chanting to a disembodied Jesus.  That might be a bit harsh. </p>
<p>I think they were looking to identify the crucified and resurrected Jesus. But, maybe I missed something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Jesus Manifesto by Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola by Trevor</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/06/review-jesus-manifesto-by-leonard-sweet-and-frank-viola/comment-page-1/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the book and I didn&#039;t like it too much. The problem I have with this book is not its call to follow and worship Jesus, but that they never really define which Jesus it is to whom we should ascribe worth. Is it the &quot;homeboy Jesus&quot; of the Hollywood-types, the &quot;baby Jesus&quot; of Ricky Bobby, or the Jesus who lived, was killed in a public execution, and was resurrected within the ongoing story of people who believed themselves to be called by God.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the final analysis, it seems that Sweet and Viola want to challenge the people who are intent on praying and embodying the Lord&#039;s Prayer. It seems they want those people to give up that agenda and, instead, become modern-day, middle-class mystics who meet in suburban house churches, chanting to a disembodied Jesus while sipping coffee from Starbucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the book and I didn&#39;t like it too much. The problem I have with this book is not its call to follow and worship Jesus, but that they never really define which Jesus it is to whom we should ascribe worth. Is it the &#8220;homeboy Jesus&#8221; of the Hollywood-types, the &#8220;baby Jesus&#8221; of Ricky Bobby, or the Jesus who lived, was killed in a public execution, and was resurrected within the ongoing story of people who believed themselves to be called by God.</p>
<p>In the final analysis, it seems that Sweet and Viola want to challenge the people who are intent on praying and embodying the Lord&#39;s Prayer. It seems they want those people to give up that agenda and, instead, become modern-day, middle-class mystics who meet in suburban house churches, chanting to a disembodied Jesus while sipping coffee from Starbucks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Law of Stickiness by Daniel Rose</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/03/the-law-of-stickiness/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor, those are some good thoughts.  Interestingly, I think that all three of the issues that you raise here point to lack of creativity and ability to speak the language of this culture.  When I look at at the Gospels I see Jesus using the stories and pictures of the culture around him.  When I hear many pastors messages I see them trying to explain these metaphors to a people who have no conceptual grid for them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can get the message sticky again if we would allow our imaginations to be renewed.  If we could imagine new metaphors to communicate the stickiest message ever.  This weekend I was speaking to a predominantly boomer crowd and I used the metaphor of the Fidelity green line to communicate eternal perspective.  I used cones to create my own &quot;green line&quot; and had a blindfolded person walk through it with someone giving direction.  Then I instructed the crowd to make noise during the second attempt to show how difficult it is to stay on the &quot;way&quot; in the world. It worked really well and people seemed to get it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would this have worked as well in a group of milllenials? Probably not.  But in a group of people who are thinking about retirement it was highly effective. So creative use of our own culture&#039;s metaphors I think helps us stick the message. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor, those are some good thoughts.  Interestingly, I think that all three of the issues that you raise here point to lack of creativity and ability to speak the language of this culture.  When I look at at the Gospels I see Jesus using the stories and pictures of the culture around him.  When I hear many pastors messages I see them trying to explain these metaphors to a people who have no conceptual grid for them.  </p>
<p>We can get the message sticky again if we would allow our imaginations to be renewed.  If we could imagine new metaphors to communicate the stickiest message ever.  This weekend I was speaking to a predominantly boomer crowd and I used the metaphor of the Fidelity green line to communicate eternal perspective.  I used cones to create my own &#8220;green line&#8221; and had a blindfolded person walk through it with someone giving direction.  Then I instructed the crowd to make noise during the second attempt to show how difficult it is to stay on the &#8220;way&#8221; in the world. It worked really well and people seemed to get it.  </p>
<p>Would this have worked as well in a group of milllenials? Probably not.  But in a group of people who are thinking about retirement it was highly effective. So creative use of our own culture&#39;s metaphors I think helps us stick the message. </p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Law of Stickiness by Trevor</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/03/the-law-of-stickiness/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing about the topic of &quot;Sticky Sermons&quot; this week.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you&#039;re on the right track by saying we can gain stickiness by creatively hooking into &quot;the metaphors of this generation&#039;s context,&quot; but I don&#039;t think our message is slippery because we&#039;re not good storytellers. The message we tell today is slippery, instead of sticky, because among other reasons:&lt;br&gt;1) it doesn&#039;t provoke tension in the hearer through legitimate engagement and/or dialogue with someone else&#039;s opposing viewpoint;&lt;br&gt;2) it lacks interaction and input from those present, so it&#039;s more of a monologue (which is why people are just fine attending &quot;church&quot; on an &quot;internet campus&quot;);&lt;br&gt;3) it isn&#039;t presented with an earnest conviction that matches that challenge and summons of Jesus, but instead is marginalized as saying nothing important.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are just a couple of my thoughts. I&#039;d love to keep the conversation going...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Trevor&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.varsityfaith.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.varsityfaith.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m writing about the topic of &#8220;Sticky Sermons&#8221; this week.</p>
<p>I think you&#39;re on the right track by saying we can gain stickiness by creatively hooking into &#8220;the metaphors of this generation&#39;s context,&#8221; but I don&#39;t think our message is slippery because we&#39;re not good storytellers. The message we tell today is slippery, instead of sticky, because among other reasons:<br />1) it doesn&#39;t provoke tension in the hearer through legitimate engagement and/or dialogue with someone else&#39;s opposing viewpoint;<br />2) it lacks interaction and input from those present, so it&#39;s more of a monologue (which is why people are just fine attending &#8220;church&#8221; on an &#8220;internet campus&#8221;);<br />3) it isn&#39;t presented with an earnest conviction that matches that challenge and summons of Jesus, but instead is marginalized as saying nothing important.</p>
<p>These are just a couple of my thoughts. I&#39;d love to keep the conversation going&#8230;</p>
<p>-Trevor<br /><a href="http://www.varsityfaith.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.varsityfaith.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus Manifesto: Restoring the Supremacy and Sovereignty of Jesus Christ by Daniel Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think that&#039;s apt.  The topic makes it encouraging but it could have been much more polished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think that&#39;s apt.  The topic makes it encouraging but it could have been much more polished.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus Manifesto: Restoring the Supremacy and Sovereignty of Jesus Christ by Roy</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/05/jesus-manifesto-restoring-the-supremacy-and-sovereignty-of-jesus-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well..so far..I am not so impressed with the style of the book. It&#039;s hard to go wrong with the topic. But this reads like they went back and dug up a bunch of their old sermons and rehashed them. Too many churchy words and broad, sweeping generalizations. Gonna keep plodding through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well..so far..I am not so impressed with the style of the book. It&#39;s hard to go wrong with the topic. But this reads like they went back and dug up a bunch of their old sermons and rehashed them. Too many churchy words and broad, sweeping generalizations. Gonna keep plodding through it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus Manifesto: Restoring the Supremacy and Sovereignty of Jesus Christ by Daniel Rose</title>
		<link>http://danielmrose.com/2010/05/jesus-manifesto-restoring-the-supremacy-and-sovereignty-of-jesus-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww...we&#039;ll be so cute.  Haha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww&#8230;we&#39;ll be so cute.  Haha&#8230;</p>
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